If I’m reading this right we currently have the women with their own race starting 5 minutes before the master men If we are combining then shouldn’t they have the same start time?

If we are combining the cat 3 and 4 men then we will have a substantial field and should make for some great racing Will we need 2 wheel vans and have neutral support ? And if we are combining the 3/4 when are they starting Right now the 3 are starting with the P12

Along those lines we could have support provided by a team or racer aid We can get cars to follow as wheel vans if we publish ahead of time Currently the bible says no support allowed and that was instituted for one race for one year and never taken out no prize money is their really any benefit to having all of them?

And as far as officials go, do we really need to pay somebody a few hundred dollars to follow a field of 10 - 15 riders These races break up and they can only see a small portion of the field Official fees are helping to break us and for what amounts to a club race with practically no prize money Is their really any benefit to having all of them?

We are doing our own finish results and keeping everything to a minimum Assuming we have a camera and a few qualified people at the finish line this could be the event that gets people coming back

We used have a motto Every race on time every time If we do that we will have happy racers

On Jun 5, 2018, at 3:54 PM, Todd Relyea brewer13210@yahoo com [OCC_Race_Committee] occ_race_comm@PROTECTED wrote:

Good questions

Looking at last years results, it turns out that the top Men 35+ and women P/1/2/3 all finished within a minute of each other The big difference is that the Women P/1/2/3 field had a whole 6 racers They won't like it, but they're riding with the masters men 35+/45+ this year If we get enough registrations, we can break them in to their own field

Agreed, men Cat 3 and now riding with the Men Cat 4 and will have their own prizes

We've never set hard minimums on the field sizes For the last 5 years, after registration closes we go over registration numbers with the officials, and agree on the final fields/groupings for the race

The maximum field sizes are simply the largest allowed by USACycling rules Let me think about that

Todd Relyea

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 3:13:06 PM EDT, Chuck Dominick chuckdominick@icloud com chuckdominick@PROTECTED [OCC_Race_Committee] occ_race_comm@onondagacyclingclub.org> wrote:

Should the Women be going before the Men 35/45 and cat 4?

Can we pay the men cat 3 since we had a good field last year? Men cat 3 should not be racing P-1-2

What is the minimum field size?

Maybe make the max field size smaller so as to stimulate a little anxiety to register

On Jun 5, 2018, at 12:34 PM, Todd Relyea brewer13210@yahoo com brewer13210@PROTECTED [OCC_Race_Committee] occrace_comm@onondagacyclingclub.org> wrote:

All,

Attached please see the draft of page 2 of the race flyer

Field groupings are based on participation numbers we had from last year Please give it a once over for a reality check and let me know if you have any feedback

For reference I've also attached the registration numbers from last year

Thanks!

Todd Relyea

On Friday, June 1, 2018, 9:37:38 AM EDT, Todd Relyea brewer13210@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi folks,

Just a reminder that we'll be having a race meeting this Sunday at 5:00 pm (before the regular OCC board meeting)

Thanks!

Todd

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