I second those sentiments, Mike. I have an illustration of how it could be. In recent seasons, the Thursday Slow N Easy ride out of Minoa has evolved into a Hammerfest probably owing to the flat terrain. While this can be cool, slower riders are often blown off the back of the group shortly into the ride. A week ago (July 30), the 23-mile group split off into two groups, one going to Oneida Lake and the other continuing on the regular route. About 6 of us decided to stay together as a pace line, during the entire ride, working together to take turns on the front, and ensuring that the front didn’t start shedding riders one by one off the back. This group really worked well together, and one rider who did go off the front was receptive to being called back into the group. At the end of the ride, I heard so much positive feedback from the riders that I haven’t heard in a long while. One rider told me that’s the fastest he’s ever ridden that course, but because we were working together, it was manageable, and more importantly, fun!!! I’m not saying that every ride has to be a paceline, or that everyone has to ride the same pace, because we all can’t. It’s nice to cut each other a break sometimes, and to regroup at least once. This is done on some of the other weekly rides, most notably Friday morning rides. But the bottom line is: What is the point of riding a group ride if you are not riding as a group? A corollary to that sentiment: There are no prizes awarded for “Winning” OCC group rides, with the possible exception of one’s own feeling of smugness that they are the “strongest rider” and “beat” everyone else. Paul V